if she dont like it, LEAVE, god damn hippies!
As a European, it's very scary to see very small kids pledge allegience to the US flag: it's disturbing.bobme said:I beleave if you live in America and where born here, or are now a Citizien of this counrty, you follow and honor our flag rules.
I don't give a sh*t about the american flag because I am not american, but I don't give a sh*t about the Union Jack or the St Georges Cross either, it is just a flag, made of cloth - why salute it because you want to play a game of sports?BDKing57 said:Thanks Innes, you confirmed my thoughts of you being a horrible person. It is not a matter of choice to stand before the flag... and i am so sick of these damn baby ass protesters... If you want to make a difference then do somthing to affect the future, If you are not helping to mold this future and nearly protesting what everyone else has poured there soul into then what good are you as a person? That flag stands for all her fathers, and the men who died for this country. I would break her damn neck if I ever saw that or anyones for that matter. What would have happened to a person who turned his back on the king 200 years ago... A peasant like that should know their place in the world.
A. The actors are losing business because they are liberal cry babies that need to grow a pair and stop acting like just because they are on TV, they have a large say in the direction of the country. Pompous asses.Judazzz said:As a European, it's very scary to see very small kids pledge allegience to the US flag: it's disturbing.bobme said:I beleave if you live in America and where born here, or are now a Citizien of this counrty, you follow and honor our flag rules.
Why many Europeans don't have such strong patriottic feelings (well, excpet for the French, that is: they still think they're a superpower, like they were 2 centuries ago...), and look at the American patriotism with a mixture of amazement and digust? I think it's because of this: I'm born in Holland, so I'm Dutch. If I was born 30 miles to the West, I was German. If I was born 200 miles to the south, I was Belgian. That's why I don't feel such strong commitment to my country: I care about what's here, since I live here, and political decisions will affect me. But I'm in no way willing to die for my country some 10,000 miles from home![]()
To me, our red, white and blue flag is just a symbol of our country: no more, no less. If someone thinks different about that, wanting to talk to it and salute it, fine (you're loss...), but don't enforce it on other people.
Just another 2 cents I'd like to add: I've seen a number of stories about Americans getting arrested because they wore anti-war t-shirts, and spoke out against the war in public. Some well-known people, like actors, that said they were against a war, are being harassed, or dismissed as business partners (like Sean Penn)......
Where the hell is your country going: I thought you had learned from the Red Scare in the 50's and 60's, but it seems like it's all starting all over again. I'm sorry, but what has that to do with "The Land of the Free", or your freedom of speech.......???
What do you mean by that? Are you referring to WW2?Xenon said:The flag is not just cloth. The flag is life and it is death. Countless people have given their lives for that flag....we dont let our "country" (which the flag embodies) to get run over like the Dutch do whenever another dictator comes along.
the world IS black and white like that....everyone sees the same thing in this world...they think the US poses a threat to the world. they think the US is just power hungry....but perhaps the US isn't out to dominate the world, perhaps the US is out there to make the world a better place since no one else wants to do it....so yea, i stand by my president when he says "either you're with us, or against us"...and i feel the world is against the US and its noble causesJudazzz said:I can't stand that US government crap about "you're either with us, or you're against us": the world isn't black and white like that: every person (just like any nation collectively) has it's own opinions, and those should be cherished by their government, as far as they do not pose a thread!!! Saying that you are against a war that your government wants to wage is not a thread: the government is making that a thread, by saying "he's against the war, so he is against us"... Witch hunt they call this (or popression of free speech and opinion), and the first signs are already noticable in the US, the world's greatest "democracy"...
the US doesn't dictate other nations...the US offer aides and support....(ie...afghanistan)...Judazzz said:On what is the assumption that the US can dictate other nations based? That they have liberated Europe in WW2 (if so, than it's a very sad thing that such a powerful nation still has to dig this up as a reminder, to convince other nations that they should follow the US's course...)? That they have the most powerful and destructive weapons? The they are the most economically developed and influential nation in the world? Or what is it?
im kinda sketchy on something though, after we remove saddam, who's gonna be the one in government power ruling iraq...the shiites or the kurds?....can anyone answer me this because no one has covered this part, and im just curiousNeoplasia said:Probably. I hope Bushy and his posse are ready for the international backlash.
I don't know what will happen afterwards, but I don't think the US government gives a shiz anyways, as long as Big Macs are sold in Bagdad, Calvin Klein is the lastest fashion thing in Iraq, and the common Iraqi watch CNN on their US-made TV-screen...USMC*sPiKeY* said:im kinda sketchy on something though, after we remove saddam, who's gonna be the one in government power ruling iraq...the shiites or the kurds?....can anyone answer me this because no one has covered this part, and im just curious![]()