[Brendan]

sounds good ill let u know in a week

 

[elTwitcho]

Best of luck, but in a tank that size with fish that size I don't think you've got a whole lot of a shot at succeeding.

Also two days is nothing, wait a month and then you can brag a little bit, because even a month is hardly a long cohabitation.

 

[Grosse Gurke]

You know why I'm pissed about this.....because this site is about how to care about these fish properly....no just toss them together for your entertainment. Brendan has shown time and time again that he is an irresponsible fish keeper that lacks the maturity to make good decissions.
A 75 galllon is barley large enough for the 3 reds...let alone including a rhom. Unfortunatly, the fish will suffer for this and not the person responsible.

 

[joefromcanada]

yea, id take that rhom out asap, it wont work, everyone on this site knows it, could last another 5 hrs, maybe ud get a month outta it, but it wont last. poor fish.

 

[User]

so far its been alomst 2 days sence i put 3 agressive red bellys in with my black they fought for abit but now they stopped fighting and are all swimming around

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Whats the f*cking point? Why try to prove people wrong at the expense of fish?

 

[FormulatedFire]

brendan your a post whore.....everytime i check a topic you got some useless commment on there that someone else already said.....and now you have decided to let p's kill other p's what a waste of good p's that someone else could take care of instead of a useless killing......someone on the admin please do something about this guy.....all he does is start trouble with people......this post as a 1st example......

 

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grosse gurke Posted Today, 04:08 PM
You know why I'm pissed about this.....because this site is about how to care about these fish properly....no just toss them together for your entertainment. Brendan has shown time and time again that he is an irresponsible fish keeper that lacks the maturity to make good decissions.
A 75 galllon is barley large enough for the 3 reds...let alone including a rhom. Unfortunatly, the fish will suffer for this and not the person responsible.

I completely agree with that statement. You are either here to show proper care of a fish or your just here to troll. Too many people think piranas are just for entertainment and can be just mistreated without thinking once about proper care. Its one thing to be ignorant and not know the nature of the beast. Its another thing to overlook the nature of the beast and be completely stupid anyway.

And people wonder why fish are banned.

 

[KrazyCrusader]

Hmmm where do I begin.. I have a 120 gallon tank with 16 meduim reds 5-6 inches, and 4 golds same size. I had a really large spawn a few days ago... This is what happened... I never saw one egg... One of the golds had taken over 1/3 of the tank.. Swam in circles, and wouldn't let another fish.. Gold or red withing a 3 foot area of him.... The reds all turned dark... Both reds and gold were pretty much stripped off all there fins... ; except the one swimming in circles. I have had these fish together for almost a year now.. In a 90 gallon.. I just recently moved them to a larger tank.... The gold swam in abrupt circles, and defended something.... this lasted for about a week..... Tuesday 22,2003 I went to feed my fish, and saw litterally thousands of small fish... They were pooling near the corners, and edges of the tank.... I can't imagine how many I lost to my filtration... I got 2 filters transferring 1000 gallons per hour...
I did manage to set up a 55 gallon with no gravel and transfer the fry..... I really need some pointers on how to feed these fish and keep them alive too.... I will keep you posted... and post pics if they have any distiguishing characteristics leading to an inter-breed.... Hell I will post pics any way... This is my first spawn ever... Another reason I am posting this.. They were very wrong!!!!!I thought the gold was doing a mating ritual.. I truely did what every one told me not to do.. I started to think that all my golds in the tank were males... So I went to my gold school, and took my largest and fatest one out and added to this tank.... 3 days latter I had babies.. I don't know that the fry are, but I am confiendent reds and golds can co-exist and spawn together.. I got pics to verify this....

Serras have been kept successfully in aquariums for a very very long time with Pygos. SC's fish survived in a 90 Gallon tank which isn't a whole lot bigger than a 75 plus he was tremendously overstocked. Not only that he was able to get the fish to breed in those conditions He wasn't using a highly aggressive Rhom so it's unknown what will happen in this case. Good luck too you. I will soon be trying to cohab 20 Maculatus in my 75 Gallon Tank. I will be selling 1/2 of them before they are 4in however. I will post pics.

 

[Lyle]

I get the impression that you are putting these fish together just to get a reaction out of the board. Well, you have certainly succeeded at that.

Now if you truly feel that this is a good idea, do your fish a favor and do a little research. This has been tried in much larger tanks. Why would it succeed when they are even more crowded?

 

[KrazyCrusader]

I completely agree with that statement. You are either here to show proper care of a fish or your just here to troll. Too many people think piranas are just for entertainment and can be just mistreated without thinking once about proper care. Its one thing to be ignorant and not know the nature of the beast. Its another thing to overlook the nature of the beast and be completely stupid anyway.

And people wonder why fish are banned.

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I think in this particular case there wasn't really a whole lot of benefit in doing this. This was more or less just putting highly aggressive fish together to see how much they would fight. It reminds me of when kids put ants and spiders together in jars to see if they will kill each other or not. I think that this is setting a bad example for people who are trying to further cohabitation in the hobby.

 

[Azeral]

People can do whatever they want with their fish as far as I'm concerned. Everyone knows the general concensus on "if you do this, then that will happen". He paid for em, they are his fish, he can do whatever he wants. If it works fine, if it doesn't who cares.

 

[Curley]

still no pics???

 

[KrazyCrusader]

People can do whatever they want with their fish as far as I'm concerned. Everyone knows the general concensus on "if you do this, then that will happen". He paid for em, they are his fish, he can do whatever he wants. If it works fine, if it doesn't who cares.

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Many of the people on this site try to encourage their own values onto other members. It's inportant to understand that many of the hobbyists have tried really hard to educate people on proper care for their piranhas. They invest all that time trying to help people understand what is good for the fish then people just blow off their advice and waste perfectly healthy fish.

 

[elTwitcho]

Serras have been kept successfully in aquariums for a very very long time with Pygos. SC's fish survived in a 90 Gallon tank which isn't a whole lot bigger than a 75 plus he was tremendously overstocked. Not only that he was able to get the fish to breed in those conditions He wasn't using a highly aggressive Rhom so it's unknown what will happen in this case. Good luck too you. I will soon be trying to cohab 20 Maculatus in my 75 Gallon Tank. I will be selling 1/2 of them before they are 4in however. I will post pics.

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SC has the credibility of Bill Clinton

 

[User]

People can do whatever they want with their fish as far as I'm concerned. Everyone knows the general concensus on "if you do this, then that will happen". He paid for em, they are his fish, he can do whatever he wants. If it works fine, if it doesn't who cares.

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With that logic people can do whatever they want to their cats and dogs, sh*t doesn't work like that.
Your statement is what gives PETA their power.

 

[hastatus]

SC KrazyCrusader was banned for valid reasons much the same way Brendan here (if he don't shape up) will wind up the same way if he is trolling these forums for reaction.

Just because someone shows you a picture doesn't mean that is the way it always is. Unfortunately to many young people buy into bogus information because they want to believe. I've been keeping piranas for over 40 plus years and have seen many such experiments with mixing species. Each time, we have 1 or 2 people that produce photos and then make their claims. Sometimes after awhile they jack up the time they say their fish were kept together. As always, photos then appear that it is PROOF of a moment in time. I would rather take the word of a hobbyist who has been keeping piranas and mixing them for over 10 or more years than a hobbyist that has been around less than 4 years with only 3 or less years of keeping piranas. I will write this again, the nature of the beast is that they are fin biters that is the primary parasitic diet. What they do in nature will be exactly what they will in the home aquario with the added difference that the fish they are biting will not be able to escape. Thus become a half eaten meal.

As for the other SC claims you keep bringing up, the information has changed so much over the last 2 years I have no idea what is real or not anymore. So my suggestion to you is, if you are happy with what SC is teaching you, then by all means go join him there permanently. I'm sure he could use the company.

 

[Azeral]

Many of the people on this site try to encourage their own values onto other members. It's inportant to understand that many of the hobbyists have tried really hard to educate people on proper care for their piranhas. They invest all that time trying to help people understand what is good for the fish then people just blow off their advice and waste perfectly healthy fish.

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I understand that completely. I joined this site for information to take care of my fish the proper way. In fact ,since I am very new, I don't try anything without consulting this site. However, ultimately, people can do whatever they want with their fish and if it goes against the norm then this site is saying do not post it or you're a "troll" or we'll flame you.

 

[Atlanta Braves Baby!]

thanks for the advise your probalby right it wont workout, but cant hurt to try, ill keep a close eye on them and probably take out the black if it gets any worse

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See this is where you are drastically wrong. Why is it ok to kill an animal just for your mere enjoyment?

 

[L10452]

Not trying to say it's a good idea because I have my 2 Rhoms, 1 Spilo, and 21 reds separated. I remember like 20 yrs ago when I didn't even care about fish at all that my uncle had piranhas. He had 2 - 9" reds and what I think it was a 8" Black diamond Rhom. He housed them in a 30 gallon tank. They were there for over 2 yrs and well fed. Now, my uncle took a trip to Puerto Rico for 10 days and told no one about his Ps being alone. So he had no one to feed them. If you guys wanna believe this or not, but the one who survived was one of the reds. He ate the other 2 piranhas. He has had this red for over 15 yrs. and all by himself. Thought I'd share this.

 

[elTwitcho]

You know what, it would be nice if you guys could calmly state your opinion without going off on the guy. What makes you think that because he acted like a dick in one thread you can suddenly treat him like he's the messageboard pariah? Experimentation is good, it's how the hobby grows and becomes better. Unfortunately in Brendan's case his experiment has about a nil chance of succeeding and that should be stressed to him, but where's all the people calling shoe997 an asshole and a piece of sh*t for trying to breed irritans in his 180 gallon tank? Where's all the "what makes you think you can do this sh*t for your own enjoyment?" comments there? Shoe is going about his experiment in the proper manner by using a big enough tank that it has a chance of working, but how is what he's doing any different than Brendan's experiment in being "right" or "wrong" because he's risking a fish for his own enjoyment exactly?

His experiment is poorly thought out, and it won't work, fine. But going off about how he's got no right to try something out is so self righteous it's sickening. What gives you guys the right to feed a rat to your piranhas? Rats are smarter than fish are, yet where are all you guys complaining to Mike about how he's such a shithead and an asshole by killing a rat for his own enjoyment and then building this site around it?

Give me a break, I never thought I'd find so many people in one place who's sh*t doesn't stink. Simply amazing