I got the luxury of meeting Frank this weekend. A great guy. I'll be posting pics and story of my experience later when I have some free time to dedicate. So before I get off subject I want to let you all know that when I was down there I was looking at his set up with a rhom and altuvei in a tank separated by plexiglass and was observing the altuvei and said to myself...hey, thats my piranha. That looks just like Mickey. Luckily I had my digi cam with me with a few pics of Mickey and I showed them to Frank and he concurred it most likely if not positively is altuvei. He goes on to tell me I'm lucky as they're very rare find. I'm pleased with Mickey and will be keeping him despite thinkin I had purchased a rhom.