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I bought a dozen live Shiners from a bait store for 3.50. These fish are easily 4-5 inches and when i put them in my tank, my p's ate them in 2 bites. Anyone else tried shiners. Im not confusing them with silver sliders, these fish are used for live bait fishing but also work for P food! And the bait store gave me 23 fish in the "1 dozen scoop"