[Forked_Tongue]

Just a random thought....

Haveing a 125 or bigger tank filling with say, 6 piranhaand on the left side you make a shelf more like a terrarium shelf so there is land available in the tak and puting in a frog or turtle and of course haveing enough $hit in the water for it to hide when needed....do u think it be possible, what specie of whatever do u think this would be possible and work good with that would look kool... I know a snapper wouldnt work

although I would like that the most

 

[Innes]

never going to work, the piranhas would eat the creatures or the other way around, depending what you add.

If you want to keep amphibians with fish you can add african clawed frogs, african dwarf frogs, axolotls and various species of newts, but most of these are coldwater, and non of these would go with piranhas.
as for turtles, I know nothing about them, apart from they will not live with piranhas.

 

[Xenon]

I am not sure if it would work out. Does anyone else here have an opinion. I would think you will need a lot of space to build the substrate up to make your "beach". I think you would also have to configure your tank setup different to hold both amphibians and fish. And what about waste? I am not a reptile guy so I have no idea but how will the retiles wasted be filtered? How is it filtered in a regular terrarium?

-mike

 

[Sir Nathan XXI]

frogs wont last, my piranhas love them, as for reptiles, I dont think you will have enough filtration

 

[Innes]

I don't know of many things that would want to live on the "beach" area, and I don't know anything underwater that would be a good idea to house with piranhas, because anything big/aggressive enough to not get killed by the piranhas will just eat or kill the piranhas.
The only idea that I can think of is if you get a creature that never goes in the water like a morphed salamander, but you may as well get a seperate tank for that as it would just look odd stuck on the side of a piranha tank, and it would bury itself all day anyway.
and if it did fall in the piranha tank, they would eat it, and most likely get ill of any poisens in the amphibians skin.

 

[Forked_Tongue]

I wasnt thinking of building a "beach" since that would take away lots of room from my 125...what I was actaully thinking was making a "pvc shelf" so that there actually was a swimming space underneath it AND having a ground terrarium area...ether way thanx for the input but I knew anyways it wasnt going to work

 

[Innes]

I cant think of any creature that would want a PVC shelf to live on, a newt or a frog might use it, but these would most definatly get eaten by the piranhas, perhaps if you change to cichlids instead of piranhas, you could possibly add African clawed frogs, and japanise firebelly newts - as I have

 

[Judazzz]

Perhaps those small redhanded crabs will appreciate a place above the water, even a small shelf with a plant or some litle rocks (they're only partially aquatic), but I'm affraid your p's will appreciate the crabs in their turn :

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[Innes]

I have tried those crabs with my red bellys, and they dissapeared within a day

 

[Xenon]

I put a crab with my Spilo CF and he got smoked in a day as well.

 

[Innes]

I have lost those crabs in cichlid tanks, they are really weak when they change their shell.

 

[RHOMKILLA]

Turtles are real messy and would be concerned that it would mess up the water quality.

 

[pcrose]

piranhas do eat crabs they might not be able to eat a turtle depending on how hard the shell is and if he keeps to himself which I am sure he would but I dunno if you can find a turtle that would have the same water conditions as the p's.

 

[Croz]

i am not sure but i think the whole land / water thing is a cool idea it would more like a riverbed. even without the turtle. i think it would be a very unique looking setup.