[Kolbenschlag]

This is from the webiste of the state aquarium....

"The red-bellied piranha, Serrasalamus nattereri, belongs to one of the most feared groups of fish. They are found only in South American waters and can feed on animals larger than themselves. Piranhas can attack and severely wound or kill wading or swimming mammals."

Now, beside from stating the very obvious (Piranhas can attack) they call it Serrasalamus nattereri, which pisses me off cause these are supposed to be experts.

Oh well, just felt the need to post that, lol.

 

[Innes]

their is a S.nattereri

- well I think there is, I have a pic of one in my new book

 

[Grosse Gurke]

their is a S.nattereri

- well I think there is, I have a pic of one in my new book

That is an old classification for P. Nattereri

 

[RhomZilla]

Yeah.. my P book has S. Nattereri all over it. Published 1992.

 

[piranha45]

I got a '88 book, it has S. Nattereri, S. Notatus (Caribe), S. Piraya, and has all said species under the subgroup "Tadyella"

 

[RhomZilla]

I got a '88 book, it has S. Nattereri, S. Notatus (Caribe), S. Piraya, and has all said species under the subgroup "Tadyella"

"Tadyella"??? Dang your book is ancient!!!

 

[nitrofish]

This is from the webiste of the state aquarium....

"The red-bellied piranha, Serrasalamus nattereri, belongs to one of the most feared groups of fish. They are found only in South American waters and can feed on animals larger than themselves. Piranhas can attack and severely wound or kill wading or swimming mammals."

Now, beside from stating the very obvious (Piranhas can attack) they call it Serrasalamus nattereri, which pisses me off cause these are supposed to be experts.

Oh well, just felt the need to post that, lol.

the problem is all the bad infomation out there, so even when they do research its bad infomation. a good example is s.niger, the black piranha, and s.rhombeus the white piranha. we all know better

 

[GARGOYLE]

Is their any books with correct names? Or all they all old sh*t? If so names please. Thanx

 

[plonker_from_mars]

yer S.nattereri is the old name for it

 

[Judazzz]

Is their any books with correct names? Or all they all old sh*t? If so names please. Thanx

No book, just PFury

 

[Innes]

 

[Xenon]

Maybe Frank can let us know when was the date that S. Nattereri was officially changed to P. Nattereri. Cause I dont know.....and want to...

 

[Young Gotti]

The book by David M. Schleser called Piranhas a complete Pet Owner's Manual uses the correct term Pygocentrus.

 

[Neoplasia]

Speaking of doing research....

Everybody in here should go out and find a copy of this book. S. nattereri was a misclassification, it does not exist as it is really P. nattereri. Using S. nattereri is incorrect.

The usage of that on the Internet can IMO be attributed to one of a couple things. Firstly the author may simply not know that S. nattereri is an incorrect classification, whether or not they are willing to accept things now is a different matter. Secondly there are those who are unwilling to accept the info as incorrect or those who are intentionally using it despite knowing full well there is evidence to the contrary. The latter group is the dangerous one as they spread falsities knowing they are "right".

 

[Sir Nathan XXI]

knowing they are falacies, and know what is really right

ie, intentional liars, but I doubt there are many people like that, why waste them time?

 

[thePACK]

 

[hastatus]

All one has to do is go to table of contents OPEFE and the information is there.....

Historical Information on genus Pygocentrus

Sir Nathan XXI Posted on May 3 2003, 02:55 PM
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knowing they are falacies, and know what is really right

ie, intentional liars, but I doubt there are many people like that, why waste them time?

I can think of a few still out there.

 

[RhomZilla]

I can think of a few still out there.

I believe so. Just came from Pets Club, checked out a piranha book published 2 yrs ago and still has the S. Nattereri specifying its a close resemblance to P. Nattereri and that classdifications were still in doubts about the 2 being and/or having any resemblance. HUH?

 

[hastatus]

RhomZilla Posted on May 3 2003, 06:31 PM
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(hastatus @ May 3 2003, 09:57 AM)
I can think of a few still out there.

I believe so. Just came from Pets Club, checked out a piranha book published 2 yrs ago and still has the S. Nattereri specifying its a close resemblance to P. Nattereri and that classdifications were still in doubts about the 2 being and/or having any resemblance. HUH?

Could it be they are using a web site for reference that boasts 4 species in Pygocentrus? No wonder they are confused.

 

[SERRAPYGO]

I have a book published in 70' that calls it Serrasalmus Rooseveltii. They tried so hard to tag Teddy Roosevelts name to this poor fish.