[Sir Nathan XXI]

those arent very good systems,

by a 55g tank or a 75g tank, with glass lids, get something like an AC500 filter or something get a won bros titanium heater, dark river gravel, and some plastic plants and your should be set

 

[Sir Nathan XXI]

I don't have room for like a 75 gallon setup

What tank is there that is bigger vertically rather than horizontal?

I thought it was roughly 20 gallons per P

So 37 gallons would be good enough for 2 Ps correct?

I see 3 P's in a 55 for life

Jeff

Piranhas dont care much for vertical, they like long and wide tanks

 

[Sir Nathan XXI]

hell yeah...you can get a nice 55 for under 300.00.

then another red and a pleco. your all set man!

you can get a 55g setup at walmart for $150, its not the best of stuff but enough to get you going

 

[Sir Nathan XXI]

Get a 55 gallon and put an ac500 on it. That is very quiet and the combo will run you about 150 to 170. Than add the heater and other stuff.
If you want to stay with a smaller tank, get a spilo and take the reds back to the LFS.

yeah mm hmm

 

[Sir Nathan XXI]

bigger footprints are important for powerfailures too, they give the tank a greater surface area to exchange gas, this will keep the fish alive longer

you shouldnt keep just 2 Ps together either, get 3 or 1, you can keep 3 reds in a 55g for a long time

 

[Sir Nathan XXI]

good heater = won bros, I get mine for about 25
hood about 30 for glass lids
fitler depends on what you get but under 60 for smaller tanks
40g I havent checked prices lately but around 70 I think