This is what happened. I went to the place where I bought my piranha's last night to check some prices on on wet/dry's and a stand for my tank. After seeing the prices I think I'll try and make my own wet/dry with the help of Nathan's website. Anyway, they tried to talk me out of buying a wetdry for my 180 gallon, they said it wouldn't be necessary and would just be overkill. Then they tried to sell me an all-glass 180 gallon. I told them I wanted acrylic and they began bad mouthing acrylic like it was the worst material in the world, saying it would scratch more than glass. I knew what they were doing, cause they don't carry acrylic and they wanted to make a sale. I swear one of them was tweaking out as he was racing threw the store trying to find the items I was looking for. It was quite funny though. I don't fully respect that store anyway, this experience just solidified that feeling. After all, they have so many piranha's in there missing eyes and they look miserable. :veryangry: Just thought you might find this interesting. Oh yeah, they went against what you guys have been saying about UnderGravel filters too. They highly recommended one and couldn't see why anyone wouldn't be using one. Damn lfs.