no dealer has a specimen this big, so there is no references for such a thing. I know how much their worth already, im just seeing how many people would be willing to pay that much. The 11+ incher im looking for is a 1000 dollar fish for sure. I definately do not want this moved, cause im not willing to part with these unless its for a one of a kind specimen. These piranha are far to valuable to attempt shoaling which would probably result in injuries be sustained, although they appear as though they want to breed.