gold spilo and reds

Honda99_300ex · Apr 20, 2003

i know this is a really stupid question, but is there any way that a baby gold spilo could live with 3 baby reds, or are the reds food? It would only be tomporary until i could find someone to take the 3 baby reds(someone gave them to me) or should i just try to put them in with the big guys and hope they hide well?

Raptor · Apr 20, 2003

There is a good chance that the reds will get screwed up. But i have seen golds in with reds at lfs fo a few mos. And not too much trouble.

Piranha King · Apr 20, 2003

what size tanks and what size are the fish?
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thePACK · Apr 20, 2003

if you have too ..just put alot of cover for them to hide..they will probably get fin nips but they should be alright for a few...your big reds will probably eat the smallest one if you should toss them in there with them

Honda99_300ex · Apr 20, 2003

the gold is about 2 inches, if that, and the reds are dime-size, im not too worried about the reds, more the gold.....he should be ok though right?just the reds will get messed up?

RhomZilla · Apr 21, 2003

Honda99_300ex said:
the gold is about 2 inches, if that, and the reds are dime-size, im not too worried about the reds, more the gold.....he should be ok though right?just the reds will get messed up?

Now that you've mentioned the difference in size.. your Reds are more likely to get messed up.

Like PACKman said, give them some hiding space and hope for the best n seing how long your reds might survive. But your not worried, right?? :

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Honda99_300ex · Apr 21, 2003

right rhomzilla, there are already some nips in the reds.....

Mr. Hannibal · Apr 21, 2003

You can use a divider to solve your problem...don´t take any risk!

RHOMKILLA · Apr 21, 2003

Speaking from experience last night I a got a 5" gold spilo. I put him into my red belly tank which consists of eight-6"-8" reds and I can tell you this, it was a disaster. I know it was a stupid thing to do, but it was a freebie and I have heard of situations where they shoal with pygos. Anyway the spilo got the sh*t kicked out of him. They nearly bit of his entire tail off. Luckily I noticed it before they got the whole thing. He is currently in a bucket and I have to step out later to buy a hospital tank. Hopefeully he'll make a full recovery. :sad:

Grosse Gurke · Apr 21, 2003

RHOMKILLA said:
I know it was a stupid thing to do, but it was a freebie and I have heard of situations where they shoal with pygos.

I have never heard of a gold spilo shoaling with pygos. Are you sure it was not a spilo cf?

RHOMKILLA · Apr 22, 2003

Honestly I'm not 100% sure. As a matter of fact on this sites factsheets it states under spilos that some had rare success in mixining pygos with spilos. Anyway I purchased a hospital tank for the spilo and hope to bring him back to normal

Sir Nathan XXI · Apr 22, 2003

sharkaquarium used to and I think still does keep Spilo CF aka Medinai with Nattereri with great sucsess

George used to have large gold spilos with large ternetzi with good sucsess as well (all over 10" I believe)

but as I told you the other day, I wouldnt do it

hastatus · Apr 22, 2003

I would be skeptical keeping any fin biting species, in this case S. spilopleura with any Pygocentrus for any length of time. A wholesale dealer moves large volumes of fishes, doubt he would keep them together for any length of time (months) especially if they are there to be sold.

In natural waters, both S. spilopleura and P. nattereri are found together, but not in the visual sense as in getting along. The S. spilopleura is a stalker and will behave the same way in the aquario regardless of all the hype you may read about them co-habitating in the home aquario.

Honda99_300ex · Apr 22, 2003

thanks for all the help guys!!

RHOMKILLA · Apr 22, 2003

Yeah it's defintely a gold spilo.

Kolbenschlag · Apr 22, 2003

Yeah keep that gold away from those reds especially if hes bigger. Nate, youre right shark aquarium does keep them together, they sold me a Medinai and a red instead of two reds. I don't think they are as concerned as a normal hobbyist would be though, and if it were my fish, I'd keep them seperated.

JAWZ · Apr 24, 2003

Yeah, the size difference is too overwhelming,...them reds is gonna get munched!

Honda99_300ex · Apr 24, 2003

woke up this morning and saw half of a baby red floating on the top of the tank........guess it's not gonna work....

Poseidon X · Apr 24, 2003

I have achieved harmony with the two.. but only when the gold is slightly smaller then the Natts. I dont recommend this for the reasons that you are now encountering.

RhomZilla · Apr 24, 2003

Sorry to hear about the result. That truly sukkz but it was worth a try..

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