[RedDragonFish]

i just bought 2 rbp's and i gold piranha for 8$ i was wondering what kind of piranha this was can anyone help me

 

[DiXoN]

a gold may possibly be a spilo but a picture or at least a better description would help .
dixon

 

[Poseidon X]

most likely Serrasalmus Spilopleura and just for your info.. there is a good chance that the gold is going to kill the other two Reds. They are very nippy at small sizes, when they are larger sometimes they can coexist like in my tank. I have pictures of both in the buy and sell forum.

 

[Poseidon X]

gold and red

 

[DiXoN]

ye i forgot also if it is a spilo they dont mix with reds and the reds will get kicked asses

 

[RedDragonFish]

are they really that mean all my piranha's are less than an inch will i have to take the spilo out and so does anyone know a differant pirha i can shoal with rbp's and where i can get one online thanx alot

 

[RhomZilla]

are they really that mean all my piranha's are less than an inch will i have to take the spilo out and so does anyone know a differant pirha i can shoal with rbp's and where i can get one online thanx alot

Just remember the 2 well known classification you'll continually hear through out this board. "Pygos and Serras" The 2 can never be mixed. Its like EastCoast/WestCoast.. Red/Blue.. Carnivors/Vegetarians.. get the pix???

The best shoal for RBs are Caribas and/or Piraya. Check the Buy and Sell forum. Theres usually good bargins and deals. Good Luck!!

 

[piranha 13]

you could divide the tank until they get bigger. caribe, piraya, and ternetzi can all live with reds.

here are some sites where you can get them online:

Fishpost
Aquascape Online
Shark Aquarium

 

[RedDragonFish]

what about putting another gold piranha in and taking out the rbp's?

 

[rosecityrhom]

I personally wouldn't risk losing reds or your gold by having them mixed. I agree that you should divide the tank or put them in separate tanks. I do also know that adult reds can sometimes coexist with a spilopleura that is smaller in size...I don't know about adult and adult though. This is occuring in my friends tank...the spilopleura is around 3-4 inches and his two reds are 7-9 inches. If you want proof I can have him post some pics of them together. The spilo nips the hell out of the reds fins though.

 

[RedDragonFish]

no i meant take out the reds and just put some more golds in together like 1-3?

 

[Poseidon X]

you could try 3 golds in a 125gallon but i think you would still have problems in a tank of that size

 

[Innes]

spilos should not be mixed with any other fish - not even other spilos, although it has worked in a few cases, but usually it fails miserably

Oh, and welcome to the site.

 

[Xenon]

no i meant take out the reds and just put some more golds in together like 1-3?

Some people have gotten Golds to successfully shoal but it is a hard and demanding process that usually ends in failure. InSinUAsian is currently trying to do it, you can PM him for details on his latest experiment.

 

[RedDragonFish]

BDKING how big are ur spilo and red u have together?

 

[Poseidon X]

they are about 4.5-5 inches for the gold and 5.5-6 for the red

 

[Poseidon X]

Do not take that as standard behavior, but it is proof that anything is possible if you pay close attention to the Piranhas Temperment. I have still have not had the time to try yet, but i would love to pick up 10+ golds and put them in a 75. I would weed out the aggresors and hopefully come away with 3 less territorial Spilos who could cohabitat the tank. Anyone who shoals Serras would agree that they are very hard work.

 

[RedDragonFish]

what would be better to watch the spilo or the 2 reds? for aggression

 

[InSinUAsian]

Spilos are alot more aggressive then reds. Espeacially a school of them. I dont know much about keep them solitary though, I have a tank currently with 10 3"ers. All is well for now, but most have fin nips. I have taken fin nips as not really much anymore since it is so common. I just ry to look out for those few times when fish are waggling a nub because of a severe fin nip. Thats has happend a few times already in the 2 months that i have had them together. None since they have been in the 180 though, mostly when they were in a 65 holding tank. Check out my pics in my sig. Just today a little while ago I uploaded some new pics. I will post them in the pic forum in a few days.

~Dj