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I bought my first 10 feeder goldfish at petsmart 2 days ago, and stuck them in my 10 gallon tank. I already had 5 rosy red minnows in the tank who had been living there for 2 weeks.

In that 2 days, FOUR goldfish have up and died on me, for NO #$ing REASON! Theres a 5th that looks like its about to bite the dust, too. The minnows are perfectly fine.
But GOD what is with these goldfish? Are these things programmed to self-destruct or what?? There aren't any visible signs of disease, their activity level just starts decreasing, until they just get sucked onto the filter intake. But my minnows are perfectly fine.

I bet in another 3 days I'll have like 2 goldfish left, and out of those 10 only 1 actually served its purpose as fish food. These things suck.
 

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point number 1 - Goldfish are just goldfish - NOT feeder goldfish!!!!!!!!!!!!

point number 2 - it is the shops fault for selling you fish which are either ill, or new in and therefore stressed and fragile

point number 3 - it is also your fault for not checking them (did you look for desiese?, did you ask when they were new in the shop?)

But all in all we are all guilty of this kind of thing, and it SUX - I just hope for your sake you got it from a shop with a weeks guarentee
 

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It isn't a financial loss, all 10 of them cost a little over a dollar. I referred to them as feeder goldfish, since that's what their intended use relates to. I'm just kind of... SURPRISED that they have a tendency to die off like this.

They don't have any visible signs of disease either, as I said.

Petsmart gets regular shipments of them in every week, cuz they sell out like mad cuz everyone feeds their oscars with them.
 

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That sucks, dude


In Holland we have a new law, that grants all buyers of pets through the retail business 6 months guarantee on the animals: wheter it's a dog or a guppy doesn't matter.
Pretty neat, but I wonder to what ridiculous situations this will eventually lead...
 

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That's typical. Used to happen to us all the time. And no matter how hard you look sometimes ick or something else will tend to slip by. So now after we buy them and do a slight water change, we add the feeders and a salt treatment that will hopefully kill some diseases they may have. Still lose a few from time to time, but far less than before.
 

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Judazzz said:
That sucks, dude


In Holland we have a new law, that grants all buyers of pets through the retail business 6 months guarantee on the animals: wheter it's a dog or a guppy doesn't matter.
Pretty neat, but I wonder to what ridiculous situations this will eventually lead...
yeah, thats a terribly shitty deal for the petstores, if some guy kills his oscar cuz of bad filtration in a month or two, then he can just take it back. Theres gotta be alot of people out there like that.
 

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Im no bitching about the loss, just the fact that the things fuckin die off like dayflies.
for some reason feeder goldfish just don't last long..don't know why...
 

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you are wrong - when I buy goldfish I have found that they last quite a while (except the last one which was eaten by my axolotl)
it is not the species of fish - piranhas would be the same - it is the conditions and stress they have to live with.

if you want them to last the best idea is to find out when your shop gets a delivery and dont buy them on that day or for a few days after.

also look for signs of desiese - not only in the one tank as many shops use the same nets or water for all tanks so the desiese from 3 tanks away can be in your chosen tank.

Do not but from shops with ill fish!!!!

you might think - whats the alternative?
not to buy that day, and complain to the management, and if nessesary the local authorities.
 

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Thats why you guys dont use feeders as regular food for your Ps. Only for daily excercise and/or to test their predatory skills
 

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my feeders die all the time i do about 2 water changes a week in my 10 gal.
but if i buy 25 feeders by the end of a 2 week time im lucky to have 5 left thats with out feeding my rhom i give him 1 gold fish a week the rest is beef heart and shrimp i have a 20 gal filter with 2 air pumps in the 10 gal dont know what else to do iv bought feeders from 3 different stores and the same happens from where ever i buy them
nothins better then flushin money down the toilet
 

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piranha45 said:
In that 2 days, FOUR goldfish have up and died on me, for NO #$ing REASON!
Wouldn't you rather die for no reason at all, then to have to deal with the inevitable horror that comes with being a feeder?? :sad:
 

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The thing about goldfish is, unless you really have to... dont buy during the warmer seasons. I used to manage a fish store and everyone knows that the summer time is the worst time to buy goldfish cause they always come in diseased. The most common is ich or tailrot during this time. When we used to order feeders in the summertime, its not uncommon for half of them to come in dead and a bunch others die in the days to come. If you must, stick with rosey reds till fall when the weather cools off to buy goldfish.
 

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Yep....same here. every third or fourth time I buy some of those little jerks, half of em croak within a day or two. I should consider myself lucky. but another thing I've noticed about the small goldfish under 2 inches, is that most lfs dont feed them enough.

they are too busy focusing on the $ fish and just plain dont give a damn because they know the little guys are expendable and have a slim chance at any decent future.

twice I have purchased the small ones where they were so under nourished that upon one of them dying, all the others immediately cannibalized on him. strange. that's why I waited till my rb's got big enough to eat the large goldfish 3 inches and up. they were fed, healthy, and lasted that long.....must be ok.
 

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i buy about 10 feeder goldfish a week and they almost always last at least a week. I have had one in the tank just to see how long he will last for over three weeks. I feed them twice a day will goldfish food. If that matters.
 

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Here might be the reason.

You had 5 fish in the 10g. Then, you added 10 more. I don't think the 10g could handle the extra bio-load you put in the tank. Those 10 golds added their waste (ammonia urine etc.) Your bacteria colony could only keep up with the 5 fish you had in their before. I think it might have been overcrowding or a small ammonia spike which the stressed golds couldn't handle.
 
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