I agree for most part. The most fascinating to me is how some individuals (people) blanket cover an entire species based on their 2 or 3 fish and say this is how they all behave is pure nonsense. Over analyzing fish is a pretty common occurence and stereotyping fish into one category of behavior.
Debate on Ternetzi Skittishness
The main difference will be apparent quickly, they eat alot more then the red version, nearly 2 or 3 times more than reds.
Mine was never skittish in a shoal like reds were. Now that its alone it acts more like a red that is in a shoal = semi-skittish
Mine was never skittish in a shoal like reds were. Now that its alone it acts more like a red that is in a shoal = semi-skittish
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where did anybody say that they all act like that?..............................................hastatus said:I agree for most part. The most fascinating to me is how some individuals (people) blanket cover an entire species based on their 2 or 3 fish and say this is how they all behave is pure nonsense. Over analyzing fish is a pretty common occurence and stereotyping fish into one category of behavior.thePACK Posted on Apr 8 2003, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE (grosse gurke @ Apr 7 2003, 04:27 PM)
My yellow nattereri acts pretty much the same as the other types of pygos in my shoal. He is the largest and has claimed more territory in the tank but the others will defend their territory just as vigorously. I dont think he eats proportionately more than the others, they all are very good eaters. I dont think my shoal is skittish and the same stimulus causes the same reaction within the shoal, and when spooked the shoal will all group together. My yellow and my little red are the most adventurous, both coming to the front of the tank when I wave to them. My personal opinion is that people tend to exaggerate their fish and how they act. Maybe it is that I try to enjoy my fish and not over analyze them so I dont notice a huge difference in the pygos, viewing them more as a shoal. There is however a large difference in pygos vs serras.
couldn't say it any better..
look at scarfish's question he asked for our own personal experiences, so thats what we all gave,
Nate,Sir Nathan XXI said:where did anybody say that they all act like that?..............................................
People say it all the time.
I wont reply to the rest of you comment because it does not deserve attention.The main difference will be apparent quickly, they eat alot more then the red version, nearly 2 or 3 times more than reds.
he asked about my experience and that was it, I have seen mine and other peoples as well, and that help true for my observations, which is what scarfish asked for
I posted my experiences and I believe Frank was posting his. What is the difference?
oh, I guess we were talking about different things, sorry for the confusion :sad:
Doesn't make it true Nate, simply means it benefits your argument for always being right by suggesting others (always unnamed), agreeing with.Sir Nathan XXI Posted on Apr 9 2003, 03:35 AM
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oh, I guess we were talking about different things, sorry for the confusion
grosse gurke Posted on Apr 9 2003, 02:45 AM
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I posted my experiences and I believe Frank was posting his. What is the difference?
Sir Nathan XXI Posted on Apr 9 2003, 02:25 AM
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he asked about my experience and that was it, I have seen mine and other peoples as well, and that help true for my observations, which is what scarfish asked for
Point is and always has been people over-exaggerate what they see on 2 or 3 fish in a tank and then lump them all as behaving this way. Doesn't make it so, but simply makes good chatter for bad science.
once again, you arent understanding, I didnt say they were all like that, I am refering to the ones I have seen, and that is what was asked
Seems pretty clear to me you are species lumping them into your version on what they all behave like. So I misunderstood nothing.Sir Nathan XXI Posted: Apr 7 2003, 10:28 PM
The main difference will be apparent quickly, they eat alot more then the red version, nearly 2 or 3 times more than reds.
Sir Nathan XXI Posted on Apr 9 2003, 04:04 AM
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once again, you arent understanding, I didnt say they were all like that, I am refering to the ones I have seen, and that is what was asked
never did I say all of them, I did say they, which is plural meaning more than one, but not necessarily all
It would take a lawyer (probably in the caliber of ex-President Bill Clinton) to understand your reply Nate. Whatever.Sir Nathan XXI Posted on Apr 9 2003, 04:20 AM
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never did I say all of them, I did say they, which is plural meaning more than one, but not necessarily all
its plain english
plural = more than one
never did I say I was talking about all Ternetzi aka Yellow Natt. , just the ones I have seen
plural = more than one
never did I say I was talking about all Ternetzi aka Yellow Natt. , just the ones I have seen
Which reiterates what I wrote, you are species lumping based on your small observation for 2 or 3 fish which is very limited for an hypothesis and very inclusive of embellishment.Sir Nathan XXI Posted on Apr 9 2003, 05:03 PM
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its plain english
plural = more than one
never did I say I was talking about all Ternetzi aka Yellow Natt. , just the ones I have seen
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you are still confused, what I am trying to explain to you is that I am not saying they all be have that way, I am saying all the ones I have seen act that way
not lumping the entire species
not lumping the entire species
Thank you Nate, the idea was to get you to clarify your statement that it was indeed simply an opinion based on 2 or 3 specimens. Still does not make it so, but just for you.Sir Nathan XXI Posted on Apr 9 2003, 05:22 PM
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you are still confused, what I am trying to explain to you is that I am not saying they all be have that way, I am saying all the ones I have seen act that way
not lumping the entire species
No its not what you said in the beginning. Here I will post it for you incase you forgot.Sir Nathan XXI Posted on Apr 9 2003, 05:58 PM
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is that not what I said from the beginning,
this is getting old, please stop harassing, you have wasted alot of board space on this topic
Key words in your post making them different from reds. And also disputes this assertion: what I am trying to explain to you is that I am not saying they all be have that way, I am saying all the ones I have seen act that way. Quite a contradiction. But then atypical for you on your back-peddling technique. No, this is not harrassment, simply a method of getting you to address what you are actually saying so that no one goes away confused or left with the impression you are typing nothing more than personal opinion. Newbies deserve factual information on a topic not heresay or left with the opinon that 2 or 3 fish make up the entire spectrum of behavior, regardless if you intended that view to be made or not. I hope you will at least read slowly (or have someone read it to you slowly) so that you will comprehend what I am writing to you. Perhaps other board members can tell you themselves, if you still don't get it.Sir Nathan XXI Posted: Apr 7 2003, 10:28 PM
The main difference will be apparent quickly, they eat alot more then the red version, nearly 2 or 3 times more than reds.
it sounds like it to me that you are the one that is having problems reading, perhaps you need some reading glasses old tymer. the question was about personal observations, therefore I dont have to state that part, everyone knows that none of us have witnesses every specimen of a species in exsistance, this is the hobby forum incase you forgot, so none of are talking about the entire species
I was asked to just let you go because you are going through alot of stress, but I dont care, thats your problem and I dont think its my problem so you need to keep it to yourself
and perhaps from now on you can just post your opinion and not bother me instead, all you post in this forum for the most part is harassing me, grow up, and if you dont think I am right post what you believe they act like, I am realing growing tired of you and your ignorance
I was asked to just let you go because you are going through alot of stress, but I dont care, thats your problem and I dont think its my problem so you need to keep it to yourself
and perhaps from now on you can just post your opinion and not bother me instead, all you post in this forum for the most part is harassing me, grow up, and if you dont think I am right post what you believe they act like, I am realing growing tired of you and your ignorance
. Its been said and written Nate, when people do not have a valid argument they resort to personal attacks to divert attention from themselves. Glad to see you are still proving that analysis. Actually, I'm not under any real stress at all. Unlike you Nate I have been in combat and yes I presently have a son in Iraq and does cause me concern. Afterall he is fighting for your right (as I have done in the past for your parents) to act like a child on a message board to post silly, nonsense remarks.Sir Nathan XXI Posted on Apr 9 2003, 06:14 PM
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it sounds like it to me that you are the one that is having problems reading, perhaps you need some reading glasses old tymer. the question was about personal observations, therefore I dont have to state that part, everyone knows that none of us have witnesses every specimen of a species in exsistance, this is the hobby forum incase you forgot, so none of are talking about the entire species
I was asked to just let you go because you are going through alot of stress, but I dont care, thats your problem and I dont think its my problem so you need to keep it to yourself
and perhaps from now on you can just post your opinion and not bother me instead, all you post in this forum for the most part is harassing me, grow up, and if you dont think I am right post what you believe they act like, I am realing growing tired of you and your ignorance
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