[o snap its eric]

I have 3 Ps and want to stock the tank...I've been popping in 21 large goldfish but they go through those in less than a week so I need to find something that I can put in there for 2 weeks or so without having to touch the tank, only for the bi-monthly cleaning and re-stocking.

Any suggestions other than dumping in 42 or so goldfish in there? Yah I know the tank gets dirty faster but I clean the tank every 2 weeks so thats good enough. I dont want to pamper them with more haha

Im sorry but if your thinking you can get away with something like that in your tank you might as well throw away your fish. No matter how much you fit in that tank with feeders they will kill and may or may not eat it reguardless. Throwing in 21 feeders in the first place is a no no for me. Doing a bi monthly water change is a diffinitly a no no. The amout of waste from the feeders and the mess they make from the piranhas and the feeders duing the feeding will certainly do stress or death to your fish if you wish to do bi monthly water changes.

If you want something that may last try a cichlid that is fast and will fight back like a convict or a red devil. Otherwise, dont throw in a bunch of feeders and doing bi weekly changes. 1. is irresonisble 2. you can kill your fish faster than you think due to unseen feeder parasite. I strongly suggest you take care of your fish more and find a better solution. Lastly, i had luck with beefheart. If you feed them a lot of beefheart they tend to digest it slower and keep the water temp to 78.

 

[o snap its eric]

Yeah a cichlid can kill your piranhas. Try adding a small Convict. That is your best bet if you want a cichlid in your tank.

 

[o snap its eric]

Look its generally agreed most people here take better care of their fish than art galleries of Monet paintings

How did you get your Ps to eat out of your hand?

They gobble up the 21 feeder fish in less than a week and are growing big fast so whats the problem? I also feed them shrimp and blood worms so its not like I'm starving them to death

These are not fish that you baby, they should be able to take a lickin and keep on tickin. I dont want some pantsy pirahna that doesn't rip stuff up. They are ugly fish and the main thing that they got going for them is their killing ability

I pamper my fish enough, its not like I converted my jacuzzi into a tank and dumped them in there

Ask yourself these question:

1. are you keeping the fish for the fish or just for the name?
2.Do you care about your piranha's welfare
3.If you were those fish that you keep, would you be happy in those conditions?

Im sorry to bust your bubble but a constant feeding of feeders are not going to make your fish more "agressive." I never feed my fish feeders unless its the very first day i got them or just got sport which then i feed them those damn expensive diesease free pond Koi. I have gotten my rhom to be hand fed and my ex caribe shoal to eat and hunt down a large rat all without the use of feeders to make them more "agressive." If you want to make your fish more "agressive" then i would go about a different way rather than feeding the deadly feeders. I am so against feeding feeders that i would rather not buy a cheap priced piranha or any other fish knowing it will only eat feeders.

As for you thinking we treat our fish like our babies you have to KNOW that your the only one thing alive and the world does not revole around you! You have taking the responsibility to care for you fish and their lives are in your hand in which this makes you in a way their god. Its like a mother giving birth to a child, you have to take responsibility because you made the decsision to have and make a baby just like you made the desicsion to buy and keep piranhas. Mistreating anything alive or neglecting in any way that would jepordize their health and not caring but as long as you are fine makes you spoiled brat. This post is not a flame in any way but i would like to shed some light into your world about taking responsibilites. Im sure you have many more responsiblity but if you can not provide at least clean water for your fish and feed them healthy then i suggest you take a break from this hobby until you have more time.

I would also like to point out that feeding them beefheart and shrimp will cost you a lot less and feeding them feeders so much. No matter what you do to make them "agressive" your fish will be not liek wild piranha simply because you have taken their natural habitat away and you cant simulate it.

Growing fast does not mean they are growing healthy.

In order to have your fish be able to get hand fed you need clean water and a knowing that when you feed them they are not going to be threaten

Are you keeping piranhas to show off to your friends or keeping them for the name or keeping them because you like the fish? Piranhas to me are not ugly. Since you do see it ugly im wondering if you really into this hobby and maybe you should find yourself a new one or keep a new fish. A true fish hobbyist will keep a fish for their looks and fascination. Keep that in mind. As like many of us fellow hobbyist we started keeping piranhas for the name but later evolved into keepin the fish for the facination and looks.

eric