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Profile: Betta Splendens Siamese Fighting Fish

Posted 14 July 2003 - 11:07 AM (#1) User is offline   Innes 

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Male, 2 months old

Males:
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Common name: Betta, Siamese fighting fish
Scientific Name: Betta splendens
Family: Belontiidae
Distribution: Thailand and other parts of Asia.
Size: Males 2.5", Females 2"
Breeding: Bubblenest builders
Feeding: Will accept most foods, particually enjoy bloodworms
Temperature: 77-82 degrees F.
pH: 6.5-7.5
Compatability: Best in a species tank, otherwise a community fish with totally peacefull fishes, and males should not be kept together.

Betta splendins is a fish that most of you will know, they sell very cheaply and they are beutifull fishes - especially the males.
in the wild they are dark and have short finnage, but after decades of selective breeding the many hobby varietys are now available with long flowing fins, and they can be quite expensive, the most expensive one I have seen was sold for $300 online.
these fish are relatively easy to breed, they need still water to breed ant some plants for cover and also for the male to use while he makes a bubblenest to hold the eegs, once this is done he will squeeze the female and as she drops her eegs he will gather them up and place them in the bubble nest.
males are always ready to breed so it is the female you will need to prepare.

These fish are not really ideal for community tanks as they get beaten up by any fish which is even slightly aggressive, even gouramis and angelfish and stuff like that will ruin the bettas finnage, likewise bettas (especially males) can be aggressive with other fish, I have seen them eat neons, cardinals and guppies, but sometimes they can live in peace (in my experiance the red ones are the trouble ones, and the blue ones are not nearly so bad, but then this is just my experience)
The name Siamese fighting fish is because 2 males will fight to the death, and in Thiland they have bets on which fish will win, and the winning fish is allowed to breed.
Bettas do not need much space as they are from the Anabanoidei family which means they have a special organ in their brain which can breath air so they can survive in spaces as small as a cup for life, although this is rarther cruel.
you can keep females together, and even with males, I suggest 1 male and 2 females.

*If you have any pics or comments on this species please add them below

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Posted 14 July 2003 - 01:11 PM (#2) User is offline   Alexraptor 

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Ok here comes my male :rockon:
and yes they are very beutifull fishes :huh:
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Posted 15 July 2003 - 09:49 PM (#3) User is offline   EMJAY 

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haha, i fed one of those to my p's once.

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i bet those fins would be tasty they could fin nip all day and not get to any meat LOL

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Ive always wondered.. If bettas cannot stand the site of each other, how would a female/male get together to spawn? :thumbup:
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Ive always wondered..  If bettas cannot stand the site of each other, how would a female/male get together to spawn? :thumbup:

its only the males that fight to the death, females are slightly more tolerant, and males are to females - although when I have tried to breed these fish I have always had problems with too much aggression in a small tank with no escape for the female/male (whichever is taking the beating)
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oh boy.. look at this imbellis

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Hmph my dad says i have to be patient but i want a new betta TOMORROW LOL!
seen a real nice one with long fins and blue body with shining yellow head  :rasp:

hmm i wonder, i know that betta's can breath normal air but iver never found out if they can actully live their entire life on air from the surface.
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hmm i wonder, i know that betta's can breath normal air but iver never found out if they can actully live their entire life on air from the surface.

they can be kept in a glass for life, but it is not allowing much room to swim.
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Posted 19 July 2003 - 03:24 AM (#10) User is offline   Alexraptor 

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Intreasting. i got a nice tank for one but i got no space for it to put it in reach for my filter's
i am using these air pumps, and i only got 2 units and theyre both in use. one i can use a seperator on but i have nowhere to put the smaller tank for that :rockon:

so thent it looks like its just enough with a few water changes more often :D
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air pumps do nothing for bettas :)
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pump is to power the filter man :)

oh and BTW i got my new Betta today, Female, real nice one :huh:

gonna let her mature to sexual maturity before i toss her and the male together :huh:
or actully until she is round with eggs.

pic isnt the greates but here is one anyway :huh:

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here she is again :) this is the most recen pic :huh:

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nice female.


if you want to breed them you should feed up the female with good livefoods and when she is ready add the male to her tank, provide bushey plants, and remove the filters :rockon:
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erm is it true that when she is ready she will show it to the male by making her colour strong? like compleatley blue and with 2 or 3 vertical stripes instead of horizontal ones?
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perhaps, she will look plump and in good condition
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 03:14 PM (#17) User is offline   Tinkerbelle 

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You really CAN'T keep males and females together other than to breed- and even just spawning them you can end up with two pretty trashed fish.

While some males can stay with females for a period of time peacefully, all of the sudden they can turn around and just rip the hell out of a female's fins for no apparent reason.

Likewise, keeping the males with other fishes can be iffy. You CANNOT keep them with fancy tailed guppies. They take the bright displays of their tails as agression (Male bettas can stretch their tails out and 'flare' to show they angry or horny) and then the gloves are off and you've got dead guppies.

I have one male that is so agressive he took out a 3" long plecostamus.

Also, because they ARE so agressive, putting them side by side (like in those HORRIBLE little 2 compartment hex containers) can be dangerous. I have one male right now that was living in a split 10 gallon w/ siliconed in place plastic needlepoint mesh dividers, who flared to such an extent that he split his tail right down the middle and then attacked it and ate half of it.

as for when they're ready to breed, yes. they show tiger stripes that are vertical and are called breeding stripes. horizontal stripes are fear stripes and indicate stress or, well, fear. she will also put her body at a 45* angle with her head down, and be very submissive.

bettas, male and female, reach sexual maturity at 3-5 months. trust me, your female is already there. if you got her from a petshop she is probably already 6 or more months old. The males almost always are... People go for bigger finnage than breeding age. The prime age to breed your fish is within the first 6-8 months.

Be prepared after spawning to deal with some pretty heavy damage. Your male will most likely rip her fins to shreds, or vice versa. The problem with an agressive female ripping a male up is that the MALE cares for the eggs after spawning in a bubble nest that he himself has blown under a lid or half of a styrofoam cup you will need to provide. Thus, you cannot begin to treat the male until 2 or 3 days after the fry hatch (or at least until they are swimming horizontally and their labyrinth organ has developed).

What kind of male are you planning to pair your female with? Crossing two unknown lines or say, a green to a red, can have some not so pretty consequences. for one thing, your fish could come from lines that produce a later in life bent ventral gene; or in the case of green to red you'll end up with prehaps some greens with heavy red wash in the fins that make them look brown or dingy.

If anyone here who previously mentioned breeding bettas is interested, or anyone has anymore (real, not harrassment) questions, please email me at [email protected] :) Thanks!

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Great info tinkerbelle, do you put the male in a bowl that's in a tank with the female to get her ready for mating (and then let him go). Or do you have a different technique? I don't know if you've done this but have you listed the kinds of bettas you have?

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currently i'm on space restriction :rockon: because i'm in a dorm room. once I get my apartment after I transfer next semester (note to everyone here: indiana university of pennsylvania is in the middle of freaking nowhere and it sucks). all I have right now is 1 veil tail male, 2 crowntail x veil tail crossed males, one that shows CT characteristics, one that shows VT; a super delta male from a prizewinning half moon line, and 3 females from the same line, as well as a veil tail female.

actually, in the technique I plan to emply the male is turned loose in the tank, and a female should be placed in a hurricane lantern (like the kind that go around tall taper candles for mantles or table centerpieces) within the tank, or a 2 liter coke bottle (clear) that has had the base and top sawed off and is weighted on the top or suction cupped to the bottom so it doesn't float away/move.

this way, the male has freedom to do elaborate displays for the female all over the tank, can figure out his 'territory', and can begin the bubble nest building ahead of time to allow for more complexity and a higher rate of hatching fry.

it also keeps the female from having to really run from him until she's good and ready to breed. you also will be able to keep a closer eye on her and her behaviors.

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That's right, I remembered it backwards, the male does need the tank for the bubble nest.

Excellent work on those dividers, how did you do it? I have cichlid reasons for wanting to make some but I'm curious how those were done.

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