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Posted 13 October 2006 - 04:38 AM (#1) User is offline   Mr. Hannibal 

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Well i've been collecting Ps since 1989 and in my humble opinion most problems with Ps begin with live feeders.
I losted some of my fish because of "uncertain" causes the first 5 years. Today i believe they died because of "unapparental" (internal) diseases/parasites (i always kept water pristine) they got from live feeders... and i've never losted a P again since i feed "dead"...
Personally i feed my Ps white meat fish fillets (different kinds) as staple and shrimp (shell on), squid and octopus as a complement for a varied diet... my Ps grow healthy and never had a problem again... :ooh: !
I know live feeders are more entertaining than dead food but you should keep in mind even quarantined feeders can contain internal (unapparental) parasites/diseases harmful/fatal to your Ps... Personally i won't use feeders with my Ps anymore. Their health come first... just my opinion...:) !
Piranhas i have now:
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Pygocentrus cariba, Serrasalmus rhombeus, Serrasalmus irritans, Serrasalmus eigenmanni, Serrasalmus elongatus, Serrasalmus manueli, Serrasalmus medinai, Serrasalmus neveriensis, Pristobrycon careospinus, Pristobrycon striolatus, Pristobrycon maculipinnis, Pygopristis denticulata, Catoprion mento


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Posted 13 October 2006 - 05:12 AM (#2) User is offline    

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This is of course the correct and wise practise.

It is sad that people buy Piranhas to entertain themselves by deliberately killing other fishes. And mostly fishes that some other hobbyists take good care of. No good.

Safeguard measures is totally another issue. Using live feeders one risks the health of his Piranhas too, like Hannibal said.

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View Postharrykaa, on Oct 13 2006, 06:12 AM, said:

This is of course the correct and wise practise.

It is sad that people buy Piranhas to entertain themselves by deliberately killing other fishes. And mostly fishes that some other hobbyists take good care of. No good.

Safeguard measures is totally another issue. Using live feeders one risks the health of his Piranhas too, like Hannibal said.

Harry


Sad, but very true.

Back in 2003 on my first time around with piranha (reds and spilos separate tanks of course) I feed live feeders, and as Mr. Hannibal said several died from uncertain reasons. This time I decided prior to receiving them that they would be fed only prepared foods in lieu of anything live.
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Posted 13 October 2006 - 08:43 AM (#4) User is offline   2PiRaNhA~2FuRrY 

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like lots of people said...stay away from feeder. but i'm some what disagree with it..yes i agree NOT to feed your piranha often, alots, or ever day daily food...

I believe piranha should have feeder once a while....maybe once a month or once in every 2 month for treat. IMO>>
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Since joining this site I haven't fed my piranha feeders in quite some time... Their diet now consists primarily of shrimp, pellets, beef heart, and bloodworms. Every now and then I put some tetras or barbs in the tank and they all eventually get eaten, but no goldfish or minnows. I do feel it's kinda cruel to feed them live fish, even though it's a natural occurence in the wild. I do enjoy watching them attack a raw shrimp though. :-)

Posted 13 October 2006 - 09:30 AM (#6) User is offline   a-ronn 

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Agreed 100 % anyway great information lots of people ask about live feeders on this site maby this topic should be posted.
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i also would like to suggest the thread or topic should be save!....for newbie when they need information any other question regard feeder..  :nod:
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Soilid Info here! Good topic Mr.Hannibal  :nod:

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so then what if you quarentine your feeders is it alright to feed them then? ...wouldnt quarentine take away all the diseas's?

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View Postitstheiceman, on Oct 13 2006, 05:30 PM, said:

so then what if you quarentine your feeders is it alright to feed them then? ...wouldnt quarentine take away all the diseas's?


not the internal paracites.

i feed my sanch feeders sometimes. NOT to amuse myself ( he takes them during the night anywhays ), but i feel it increases his life quality. Im well aware of the danger in doing this, but my lfs has, as long as ive shoped there, never had infested fish. if they do notice something they quaranteen the tanks. I will say im beginning to move away from live feedings, cause of the reasons stated by Hanniball, one day you might end up with a dead p.
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View Postitstheiceman, on Oct 13 2006, 05:30 PM, said:

so then what if you quarentine your feeders is it alright to feed them then? ...wouldnt quarentine take away all the diseas's?


not the internal paracites.

i feed my sanch feeders sometimes. NOT to amuse myself ( he takes them during the night anywhays ), but i feel it increases his life quality. Im well aware of the danger in doing this, but my lfs has, as long as ive shoped there, never had infested fish. if they do notice something they quaranteen the tanks. I will say im beginning to move away from live feedings, cause of the reasons stated by Hanniball, one day you might end up with a dead p.



exactly...well said Corey :)
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View Postitstheiceman, on Oct 13 2006, 11:30 AM, said:

so then what if you quarentine your feeders is it alright to feed them then? ...wouldnt quarentine take away all the diseas's?


It's is less risky but it's always possible feeders still carry unapparental parasites/diseases harmful/fatal to your Ps... personally i prefer not to risk my beloved Ps... anyway it's a matter of personal choice but in my humble opinion at least you should quarantine your fish (live feeders) before feeding your Ps... :p !
Piranhas i have now:
(8) Pygocentrus cariba, (1) Serrasalmus rhombeus, (1) Serrasalmus irritans, (1) Pristobrycon striolatus

Piranhas i have had before:
Pygocentrus cariba, Serrasalmus rhombeus, Serrasalmus irritans, Serrasalmus eigenmanni, Serrasalmus elongatus, Serrasalmus manueli, Serrasalmus medinai, Serrasalmus neveriensis, Pristobrycon careospinus, Pristobrycon striolatus, Pristobrycon maculipinnis, Pygopristis denticulata, Catoprion mento


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I would just like to ask if feeding the pellets, shrimps etc except feeder fish, is there any way this might affect their aggresiveness?? thanks

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i think feeding them "non living" food drops there agression IMO, i feed mine shrimp, and feeders...out of curiosity what live feeders could i feed them IF i chose this route??

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View Postfish lover, on Oct 13 2006, 12:38 PM, said:

I would just like to ask if feeding the pellets, shrimps etc except feeder fish, is there any way this might affect their aggresiveness?? thanks


are you asking if there is a certain food that will make your P's more agressive?

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View Postfish lover, on Oct 13 2006, 12:38 PM, said:

I would just like to ask if feeding the pellets, shrimps etc except feeder fish, is there any way this might affect their aggresiveness?? thanks


As far as i know there are no studies on that issue... personally i believe fish aggression and live feeding are not related... just my opinion anyway... :p !
Piranhas i have now:
(8) Pygocentrus cariba, (1) Serrasalmus rhombeus, (1) Serrasalmus irritans, (1) Pristobrycon striolatus

Piranhas i have had before:
Pygocentrus cariba, Serrasalmus rhombeus, Serrasalmus irritans, Serrasalmus eigenmanni, Serrasalmus elongatus, Serrasalmus manueli, Serrasalmus medinai, Serrasalmus neveriensis, Pristobrycon careospinus, Pristobrycon striolatus, Pristobrycon maculipinnis, Pygopristis denticulata, Catoprion mento


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yeah, im pretty sure he is, why want so much agression tho...that agression that your looking for may sometime in the future cause you to lose a couple fish IMO

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Yea or a finger. haha.... Just let your P's be what they are. Theres no need to attempt to make them into something that they're not.

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View PostMr. Hannibal, on Oct 13 2006, 06:50 PM, said:

View Postfish lover, on Oct 13 2006, 12:38 PM, said:

I would just like to ask if feeding the pellets, shrimps etc except feeder fish, is there any way this might affect their aggresiveness?? thanks


As far as i know there are no studies on that issue... personally i believe fish aggression and live feeding are not related... just my opinion anyway...  :laugh: !


imo agressivenes is realted to shortage of food or dominance over territory.
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thanks.. because i was feeding them pellets and shrimps lately and i noticed that there are less movements and some of my reds skip meals... but last week or so when i fed them black mollies, they were like chasing them, and devouring them in an instant... it seems to me they like feeder fish more than those foods i know that are beneficial to them...

Also, is it okay for them to be fed with crickets and other insects??

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