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Posted 17 February 2005 - 10:25 PM (#1) User is offline   Peacock 

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i know the canal is huge... but maybe the state could set up a series of commercial aerators.. i know it has been done in very large lakes.. might there be ill effects in this case with aerators?
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Posted 18 February 2005 - 01:20 AM (#2) User is offline   Atlanta Braves Baby! 

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Wow that is a damn shame! I hate the effects of overpopulation on the environment.
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Posted 18 February 2005 - 02:29 PM (#3) User is offline   MR.FREEZ 

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i have a pretty good ideal were the "dead zone" is in the la area, i go used to go fishing

there alot, all you catch really was smelt and cod that had signs up warning you not

to eat it at all :bowdown:

Posted 18 February 2005 - 06:04 PM (#4) User is offline   acestro 

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Peacock, on Feb 18 2005, 03:25 AM, said:

http://www.flmnh.ufl...ground2004.html


i know the canal is huge... but maybe the state could set up a series of commercial aerators.. i know it has been done in very large lakes..  might there be ill effects in this case with aerators?
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Aerators are not the answer. A simple band-aid can't cover up a wound that needs stitches. Huge scale changes need to be done, very sad story.

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acestro, on Feb 18 2005, 06:04 PM, said:

Peacock, on Feb 18 2005, 03:25 AM, said:

http://www.flmnh.ufl...ground2004.html


i know the canal is huge... but maybe the state could set up a series of commercial aerators.. i know it has been done in very large lakes..  might there be ill effects in this case with aerators?
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Aerators are not the answer. A simple band-aid can't cover up a wound that needs stitches. Huge scale changes need to be done, very sad story.
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That sad part about that is the changes needed more then likely wont be comfronted. :(
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Posted 18 February 2005 - 08:22 PM (#6) User is offline   jamesdelanoche 

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being in the northwest I think helps a lot. However washington faces the same problems oregon does. Half the state is environmentally concious(the west) and the rest don't give a rats ass because it will cost them money and they arent around to see it. (the east). Its a sad state of affairs, I can't imagine nothing being done though, hope someone finds a solution, thats terrible

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acestro, on Feb 18 2005, 11:04 PM, said:

Peacock, on Feb 18 2005, 03:25 AM, said:

http://www.flmnh.ufl...ground2004.html


i know the canal is huge... but maybe the state could set up a series of commercial aerators.. i know it has been done in very large lakes..  might there be ill effects in this case with aerators?
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Aerators are not the answer. A simple band-aid can't cover up a wound that needs stitches. Huge scale changes need to be done, very sad story.
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Well unfortunatly stitches cannot be administered.

A band-aid with some neosporin is better then leaving the wound open.

What can we do? WE are the problem... The government just cant start exterminating random people to bring the population down. Not everyone has the same moral ethics as i do.

there really is nothing we can do because the problem is overpopulation and polution. polution is a byproduct of population.

what IYO should be done Ace?
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Posted 20 February 2005 - 03:07 AM (#8) User is offline   Peacock 

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waiting..................
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you guys can take some of out bums to go around collecting trash and takin it to the

recycle center for booze money

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Peacock, on Feb 20 2005, 08:07 AM, said:

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Sorry Peacock, I don't have as much computer time lately. :bowdown:

The solution is grassroots work and coordination of efforts in a multidisciplinarian sort of way. There actually can be more research done. Pinpointing sources is hard here but is important because, as mentioned, you cant solve all of these problems. Tax incentives or laws (nasty as they are) can help. Just see how many bottles/cans you see on the side of the road in Michigan as compared to Alabama.

Within your healthy (somewhat) overconfidence, youth denies you some experience that leads to wisdom. Look up in American history where one of our rivers was actually ON FIRE! That river has come a long way (hint, midwest state...). How much worse can it get than having a river so polluted that it was on fire?! Then do your research on how they pulled things together, you will find your answer there.


I really hate correcting you (honestly :rockon: ) but neosporin actually would be bad for a large wound. Look it up, there actually are bad consequences! Repeated use of neosporin causes allergy (contact dermititis). But I digress (did I ever! )

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Not everyone has the same moral ethics as i do.


Wasn't it you that wanted "OWNED" put on a picture of victims who had died in the Tsunami?

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I guess this conversation is over....

Posted 07 March 2005 - 11:00 AM (#13) User is offline   Peacock 

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acestro, on Feb 21 2005, 04:58 AM, said:

Peacock, on Feb 20 2005, 08:07 AM, said:

waiting..................
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I really hate correcting you (honestly :thumbup: ) but neosporin actually would be bad for a large wound. Look it up, there actually are bad consequences! Repeated use of neosporin causes allergy (contact dermititis). But I digress (did I ever! )
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key phrase = repeated use.


how long does it usually take for the goverment to start helping out? Who funds the work?
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Posted 07 March 2005 - 11:02 AM (#14) User is offline   Peacock 

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acestro, on Feb 21 2005, 05:05 AM, said:

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Not everyone has the same moral ethics as i do.


Wasn't it you that wanted "OWNED" put on a picture of victims who had died in the Tsunami?
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Yes it was I.

Im saying that people(not me) wont allow the government to exterminating random people to bring the population down.
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i think there are bigger problems than hood canal being discovered in this thread, like perhaps polluted beliefs? Grow up, when you learn to value human life, enter the adult world. Untill then, shut up

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jamesdelanoche, on Mar 9 2005, 08:43 AM, said:

i think there are bigger problems than hood canal being discovered in this thread, like perhaps polluted beliefs?  Grow up, when you learn to value human life, enter the adult world.  Untill then, shut up
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you have to realize i dont share the same ethics as you and look at life with a more natural outlook. Your personal opinion on the value of human life is not "right" just as its not "wrong". its too subjective to personal opinion and not of fact.

answer me this-

Why should some random humans life have more value then a feederfish's? There is no Factual answer to that question because its solid personal opinion..

My opinion is as good as yours. so shush.. oh and BTW- i am past puberty, therefore i am grown up. :bowdown:
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jamesdelanoche, on Mar 9 2005, 08:43 AM, said:

i think there are bigger problems than hood canal being discovered in this thread, like perhaps polluted beliefs?  Grow up, when you learn to value human life, enter the adult world.  Untill then, shut up
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I'd have to agree with you. And I'm not letting Peacock go off on another pointless series of posts. Half asking good questions and half acting like a confused unethical moron doesn't work here. If you cant understand human life having more value over feeders, you're beyond help. I'm done with giving you good answers to your questions.

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